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  Library Card Defense - All aspects

  by Lionel_P_Hartley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this thread is for a general all-inclusive discussion of the library card explanation presented by the wts.

  nothing within that context should be considered off-topic.. to get the ball rolling:.

  by affiliating with the un as an ngo an organization agrees to support and advance un goals.

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  drahcir yarrum

  Another set of handy JW defenses might go like this:

  I joined the Army so I could use their 6 week fitness program.

  I attended a Christmas party so I could leave Watchtower and Awake copies on coffee tables when nobody was looking.

  I committed adultery to get some pointers on how to better satisfy my wife.

  I joined the YMCA so I could use their basketball court.

  We joined the UN so we could use their library.

  All of the above make perfect sense to me.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  What do you drink???

  by Billygoat in

  1. social
  2. humour

  thought this was funny!.

  drinks and personalities.

  seven new york city bartenders were asked if they could nail a woman's personality, based on what she drinks.

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  drahcir yarrum

  When I'm in a good mood. . . Gin and Tonic
  When I'm in a bad mood. . . Jack and Water
  When I'm hung over. . . Bloody Marys
  When I want to disgust everyone in the room. . . Tequilla shooters

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Homosexuality and Bethel

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a lot of post about gay men in canada bethel and how when knorr came in he "booted out" 70 gay men.

  also stories about brothers visiting "massage parlours".

  is any of this true, is there proof and personal accounts?.

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  Hey Room215,

  We were there at the same time. I was the one with the BA.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Homosexuality and Bethel

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a lot of post about gay men in canada bethel and how when knorr came in he "booted out" 70 gay men.

  also stories about brothers visiting "massage parlours".

  is any of this true, is there proof and personal accounts?.

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  When I was at Brooklyn Bethel in the early 70's there was a purge of a number of gays. They were dismissed from Bethel and publicly ridiculed by Nathan Knorr. Most of the gays dismissed were low level workers, but I think there was at least one Bethel servant dismissed as well. They missed Leo Greenlees.

  I had a friend who worked in a restaurant on weekends in Brooklyn Heights and one night he started drinking with a couple of guys after hours, went back to their apartment, and apparently had sex with them. He went to Knorr and confessed his "sin" and they dismissed him immediately. Knorr had no tolerance for sexual activity by the bros.

  I do remember at the time, the Bethel higher ups didn't want any of these things to be communicated to the JW's back home, but of course they were.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Giving Up Smoking

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm giving up smoking on the 22nd.

  it will be the third time, but this time as part of a government sponsored training course with drugs and patches supplied etc.

  anyone else given up and got any helpfull advise?.

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  I was a closet smoker for over twenty years. I tried nicotine gum, patches, cigars, etc. None of that worked. One day I went to the convenience store to buy a pack of my favorite brand (Marlboro Lights) and they were out of them. I tried another store and they were out also. I made it through day one with no problem. The next day I was real busy and didn't have time to stop and buy any and I made it through day two. So far it's been five years since my last smoke. I know that if I smoke just one cigarette, I'll be back on them, so I'm careful not to get in that situation. But oddly enough, after this much time, I don't feel uneasy about it. I also don't mind secondhand smoke. My method, which is not method at all, just worked for me. Everyone is different. Good luck.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  They really blew it with Michael Jackson.

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey did any of you catch the cbs special last night with mj?

  an acknowledgement of his 30 years in the business.

  it was pretty good.. while watching, i couldn't help but notice all of the thousands of screaming fans, some of whom were crying, over michael.. the wbts really blew it when they df'd him.

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  I thought the most disturbing part of the Michael Jackson special, what little I saw of it, was the physical condition of Witney Houston. She looks like a walking crack pipe.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  we were never s'pose to die????

  by Julie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  out of the many things from the bible i wonder about there was one i thought i would share with you all and see if you may have any interesting insights on this issue.. according to the bible man was suppose to live forever, no sickness, easy childbirth for women, just your basic paradise, right?.

  so ok, we all know that because that wretched eve screwed it up for all of us and everything we now have suffering and death.. my problem with all of this is this: what if all the people who had ever lived had never died?

  how many of us would there be on the planet?

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  Julie:

  I tend to look at this simply from "what is" with the rest of life on earth. Everything, cell, protozoa, aomeba, fish, fowl, reptile, mammal and so on has a life cycle. There isn't a single life form on earth that beats the system. Only accepting the WTS unscientific, heretical view of scripture could one assume that man was designed to live forever.

  The WTS mythology, while pleasant to consider is still just mythology.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Whats the strangest watchtower/awake article ever

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whats the strangest watchtower/awake or other publication article you,ve ever seen?.

  i know theres some very strange old articles , but a few years ago there was one in the awake if i remmember right which had a picture of two brothers holding hands on the ministrty.. one was african the other white.. apparently it was common for men to hold hands in this country and was perectly normal for hetrosexual men to do.. a brother who was a missionary recounted how he was shocked when out with a local brother for the first time on the ministry and the brother took his hand in his.. a lot of people though the article was very odd and didn't like it.

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  Maybe someone has access to the exact article or series of articles in the WT where the pronouncement was if a Witness unilaterally broke off a wedding engagement with their fiance, it should be viewed the same as if the two were already married and could lead to disfellowshipping of the offending party.

  I don't know if anyone was actually DF'd for coming to their senses before marrying the wrong person, but I remember the policy.
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  Whats the strangest watchtower/awake article ever

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whats the strangest watchtower/awake or other publication article you,ve ever seen?.

  i know theres some very strange old articles , but a few years ago there was one in the awake if i remmember right which had a picture of two brothers holding hands on the ministrty.. one was african the other white.. apparently it was common for men to hold hands in this country and was perectly normal for hetrosexual men to do.. a brother who was a missionary recounted how he was shocked when out with a local brother for the first time on the ministry and the brother took his hand in his.. a lot of people though the article was very odd and didn't like it.

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  I think the article was in the late 1960's or early 1970's and it was a discussion of how the organization's constantly changing positions on matters was simply like a sail boat tacking in the wind. When I read that one I remember a feeling of uncertainty coming over me which I quickly set aside as my lack of understanding and "Christian maturity". Oh how I wish I had followed my own feelings of doubt instead of thinking that my doubts were an indication of immaturity.
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  Just got a visit from elders

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it's sunday morning and i'm sitting here posting on this board when i hear 2 car doors slam.

  i peek out the window and see 2 elders walking up to the door.

  since i'm still in my jammies, i told my husband to go get the door while i snuck into the bedroom.

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  drahcir yarrum

  outnfree:

  I didn't know about Kent posting KM's. I've never visited that site.
  Thanks,

  Richard